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more people including families with children converge on cairo's liberation square. the largest protest yet. it's been peaceful so far from all reports. the army playing a key role of buffer bween protesters and mubarak supporters. egyptian government figures now joining protesters. secretary general amir mussa showing up in tahrir square today. with strong ties to the current leaders is he a barometer change? and in congress the finger pointing begins. did u.s. intelligence overlook clear signs? >> when did the intelligence community first alert the president and policy-makers that protesters were likely to threaten president mubarak's hold on power? >> plus, wall street tries to shake off a mixed job report. unemployment drops to 9%, the lowest in two years, but not enough jobs are being created to keep pace with population growth. and nancy reagan as you have never seen her before.
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a look at the pbs documentary. >> i jumped out of the tub, knocked on the shower door, told ronnie to get out. he grabbed a towel and there we are dripping wet listening to somebody say "ronald reagan is the next president of the united states." >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. night has fallen in cairo. the protesters are still in tahrir square. hundreds of thousands remain, waving flags, calling for president mubarak to resign. it's been largely peaceful. small groups of protesters who were pro mubarak were kept away, but either mubarak nor the opposition appear ready to back down. ron allen is live in cairo. bring us up to date. i think from some of your earlier reports there is trouble outside of the square where there are clashes, but the
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square itself has been relatively peaceful or perhaps that's not the case. tell me what's happening now. >> very, very small clashes, andrea. nothing of significance and nothing of the magnitude that happened yesterday or earlier in the week at the beginning of the protest. night's falling. it's the end of the day of departure and hosni mubarak is still in power. if you're scoring this perhaps you have to say it was a good day for the government. the military, as you said in the open, was the key player today. yes, there are hundreds of thousands of protesters there, but the military established order early and maintained it throughout the day. they were able to separate the pro' and anti-mubarak forces. the pro mubarak forces didn't play a big role today. but the government says it will make concessions, will be reasonable to the international community. you don't have images of the military cracking down as some people feared may happen. at the same time they announced investigations of the former
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interior minister, for example, and other government officials. they are freezing assets. they will look into past grievances the opposition raised. so the government gets to continue to play this out and the pressure mounts on the opposition to maintain large numbers of people in the public square. there is talk of a sit-in at the train station. at the same time we were able to get out today around the outskirts of cairo away from the square. what you see is a proud capitol that's now something of a ghost town. everything is shuttered. stores, schools, restaurants. nobody's going to work. there is talk of trying to open up banks on monday which is a big thing because the key demand people have in the real world here is they have no cash to buy things. there is not a lot of money in circulation. we have seen gas lines in places particularly in alexandria where we were yesterday. that's something the opposition has to deal with. how long can you maintain this number of people in the public
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square and bring pressure on the government while it tries to play this out? >> of course they are afraid if they were to leave the square and dial down the pressure that the world's focus would move on and would be similar to what happened in iran where the student revolution petered out. are they planning to stay overnight? i mean, the square will be filled not with these numbers but they are preparing to keep the vigil. >> reporter: the numbers, of course, we don't know how many people will be able to endure it. for the past few days there have been several thousand people who have been in the square at any given time. if they can increase the numbers and now this becomes a sit-in as opposed to a day of protests, it take as slightly different shape and form. but, again, as long as the military has this area surrounded, certainly essentially it's clamping down on big marches. it would have been difficult
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because the parliament and presidential palace are far from the square, so that wasn't going to happen n. terms of opposition figures, if this doesn't play out to a conclusion and mubarak leave it is country, i would not want to be an opposition figure in this country. a lot of people have said that. this wouldn't be the first time someone has gone into exile. that's why the opposition is pushing hard for a conclusion to this. they just aren't getting it. >> ron allen, thank you very much. be safe. the united states is, of course, at a turning point in its relations with egypt stepping up conversations to get president mubarak to step down in favor of a traditional coalition government. so far he's refused to budge. chief white house correspondent and co-host of the daily run-down chuck todd joins us. behind the scenes a lot of conversations. they say they are not negotiations. what have we learned about the pressure points. >> reporter: on one hand they are trying to push a little bit harder with other world leaders to get them to start pushing at
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mubarak to try to internationalize the pressure a little bit. right now the pressure has only been coming from the united states, only from the president, vice president biden, secretary of state clinton. they would like a little bit of that -- secretary of state clinton has a security conference she's headed over to in munich. this will be a huge topic of conversation. second, the most effective bilateral discussions have been between the military. you had admiral mull length yesterday on the daily show talk about how they pushed hard with his counterpart to make sure there wasn't violence today, that there was protection out there and the result of that. i think there is -- happiness is too strong of a word -- but relief at the white house that the army basically protected the demonstrators today. >> what about the intelligence? what did you know and when did you know it? there was a confirmation hearing
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yesterday for stephanie o'sullivan, the cia leader who will be promoted up if she's confirmed to be the number two intelligence figure in the united states. she was questioned hard by ron wid widen, dianne feinstein. let me play a little bit for you. >> the question i asked was when did the intelligence community first alert the president and policy-maker that is protesters were likely to threaten president mubarak's hold on power. >> we have warned of instability. we didn't know what the triggering mechanism would be for that. that happened in the last -- end of the last year. >> the ranking member of the intelligence committee, dianne feinstein, the former chair, said she never received briefings on egypt. there is some indication there were cables but that the cables didn't get to the point that this could reach a tipping point. her question is wasn't this open source information on facebook,
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on twitter, in the news media? >> reporter: look, i think the white house is playing down the idea that there is a finger-pointing game going on. i don't think they accept the point that somehow this is a failure on intelligence. a few aids have said, you know, how do you know when a middle class egyptian will decide this is the time to go into liberation square and start protesting? i think they feel that this might be getting blown up a little bit, that they are not doing that behind the scenes, any of this finger pointing. now, going forward, you get an acknowledgment that our middle east policy which hadn't been -- like in comparison to how we deal with the opposition in western european countries that there will be a more concerted effort to have some level of relationship with some of the oppositions even in some of the autocratic regimes. >> chuck todd, what could be a
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critical day and we'll hear from the president for the first time actually answering questions about this when he meets after his meeting with the canadian -- >> a question. one question. >> one question. >> one question. that's all there will be. >> very controlled. >> yep. >> at least you don't need simultaneous translation with canada's prime minister. at least we hope not. actually, they will do it in french as well. sorry about that, our canadian friends. thank you very much. join chuck and savannah weekdays at 9:00 a.m. eastern for the daily rundown. at least two dozen or more members of the media have been arrested including from the new york times, al jazeera. the united states is camming it a cam -- campaign of intimidation. what is the latest you are hearing from your colleagues? >> well, there were three of our colleagues what were arrested. two were roughed up by these
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peop people, supporters of president mubarak and they were later handed over to the army. the three were later safely released. obviously all the media in egypt continue to be under pressure, particularly al jazeera. that is the channel that a lot of people inside of egypt and in the wider arab world are actually watching to follow what's going on inside egypt. >> they are trying to crack down and not let people know what's going on. let's talk about reactions. moussa showing up. some think that shows the leadership cracking a little bit. he's kind of hedging his bets. he's closely identified with mubarak but to show up with protesters could be significant. >> it could be, but not
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necessarily. he's the secretary general of the arab league, an organization which is not very important in its own right, but the man is important as a former foreign minister of egypt and somebody from inside, if you will. but the other day when president mubarak gave his speech he came out and said there are good things in this speech. let's take a closer look at it before we reject it out of hand. the fact that he's joined the demonstrators is obviously a measure of how much he takes his own notion of running for president should the opportunity arise. whether the crowds will actually take him seriously or not. what we are hearing from the crowds in tahrir square and elsewhere in egypt is that this is a movement by the people of egypt and the people have not spoken yet in favor of who they want to lead them in the next phase. >> would they consider a transitional government led by
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the vice president, suleiman, who has been reviled by many of them? >> i think some of them are talking about that. some of them, especially the smaller parties in egypt are on the record as saying that what the government has offered is reasonable. they are prepared to give mubarak until september until he oversees the election. what we are hearing from other movements, the bigger parties and the young people who have been demonstrating for ten days now in tahrir square is that's not enough. they want mubarak to step down and it's not until he steps down that any significant dialogue could determine the future of egypt. >> if he continues to resist, will it reach the point where the army will come to him and say, you have to leave? >> it's possible. my sense is that there have been disagreements within the army from the start. the other day we saw the air force fly military jet over
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tahrir square. that's the air force. on the ground that same day we actually saw the army on the ground not necessarily take any action against the protesters. that signals that maybe not everyone in the army is on the same page as what should be done. one quick thing i should say about the people demonstrating now in egypt, the message they are sending is if the president says without mubarak egypt would slide into chaos, they are saying we are demonstrating to the world that we can run the affairs of egypt and run them well. so that should not necessarily be a reason by the government to be trusted. >> that's a profound message, indeed. thank you very much. good to see you. up next, senator robert menendez, will congress cut off aid to egypt? send me your thoughts on twitter. this is andrea mitchell on msnbc.
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the senate has passed a resolution calling for president mubarak to step down and transfer power to an interim government. it's largely symbolic but lawmakers are divided over whether to cancel a billion dollars of aid to egypt if mubarak refuses to design. robert menendez is a member of the foreign relations committee and chairs the subcommittee on foreign assistance. thank you very much for joining us. >> good to be with you. >> what can the united states do? what more can the president and white house do to persuade mubarak that he needs to give up power and step down? >> well, clearly as the conversations are going in back channels which is probably the best way to achieve success for mubarak, there's al the statement that is the united
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states could make that very significant aid to egypt could be frozen. and not forthcoming. that aid is vital to the egyptian government. so i think that's a message as well that's very important. i would also appeal to mubarak that he has an opportunity to write a chapter in history and of his life in egypt in a way that signed a great accord with israel and at the same time could transition to democracy in his country for which he would be remembered versus the violence we see today. >> senator, let me play devil's advocate. this has been in place since 1979 and the point of the aid was to secure peace, that israel and egypt would get in a two to one the ability to keep the peace which has held. would we be hurting the united states and our own self-interest
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if we cut off aid to egypt? >> it is an inducement to get mubarak to understand that, in fact, the loss of assistance and standing would create -- further debilitate him. at the end of the day we hope for a transition to a peaceful and more democratic and open government that is more inclusive of the people of egypt in a way that meets their demands. maybe vice president suleiman can be that transitional figure. the egyptian constitution says the speaker of the parliament takes the office should the president step down. how they would work it out is another issue. at the end of the day, you know, we want to have a peaceful transition here and we want to make sure that we are helpful although we cannot dictate to the egyptians obviously, and we won't. but we want to be helpful that the transition is towards a
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joins us now. >> hey. >> how can can president balance priorities like other presidents before him he has to be distracted by the foreign policy crisis. >> it's dominating his schedule. people in the white house tell us. it's also equally important for him not to be trapped in the rose garden, a la jimmy carter during the iran hostage crisis three decades ago. the president seems determined to do that. he went to state college, pennsylvania, yet. they are about to announce another series of trips he'll take to tout the new infrastructure plan. >> now, the jobs numbers that came out today, on the surface of course a lot of cheering. it's down to 9% but still is lowest net gain of new jobs and not nearly enough to keep up with the population growth so they have problems. >> big ones. this is the lowest one in the last four months. analysts are confused by the report. i think a lot of this may turn out to be sort of seasonal
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issues involving the weather and adjustments made to the sample. but, you know, there is a sense of disappointment. every time the white house wants to pivot to this and feels they are gaining momentum on jobs and there have been a couple of good reports. there was an adp report and firms plan to fire. there was another report. they just seem to get -- it's lucy and the football time. they get a report that's a punch in the gut. so it's difficult for them to focus on this full time. >> that's a good analogy, lucy and the football on a big football weekend. thank you very much, glenn. have a good weekend. coming up, the threat to other arab leaders. we'll go live to jordan. and david gregory. who will fill the power vacuum if mubarak the forced out? and as the 100th anniversary of ronald reagan's birthday approaches we have a preview of a new interview exclusively for pbs. nancy reagan, the love of his
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topping the headlines right now, nbc news has confirmed mark kelly, the husband of congresswoman gabrielle giffords will command the "endeavor" final mission in april. he will announce it later today. just released data from the 2010 census show that racial and ethnic minorities accounted for roughly 85% of the population growth over the last decade. the census found ta new orleans' population, not surprisingly, has shrunk in the wake of hurricane katrina. the city is now 30% smaller that be it was in 2000. a virginia man is under arrest after allegedly hijacking a greyhound bus overnight in north carolina. police say the man pulled a gun on the driver, released most of the passengers on the side of the interstate and was arrested at a nearby gas stations. no word on his motive and what
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he was drinking. hundreds of jordanians marching in protest of the government. the protest was small compared to those in egypt but underscores the instability in the middle east throughout the region. martin fletcher is live for us in ammam. how are you reading this? the situation in jordan, the stability of king abdullah? >> reporter: well, today's demonstrations against the government were small scale compared to cairo. there was one demonstration of a hundred people, another of a thousand people, all peaceful calling for political change in jordan. the interesting thing was the main demonstration we expected to be at the mosque downtown on friday which is traditionally the main point of demonstration didn't happen. i think the reason is that the muslim brotherhood has been met with the king and the prime minister last night and their first official meeting in a
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decade. after that meeting the muslim brotherhood said they were going to give the government more time to organize the reforms of the king and the prime minister were promising. that's a positive sign for a peaceful transition, a peacefulle way out of the protests here in jordan. the muslim brotherhood giving the government time to achieve reform is a major step forward and hopefully an example that peaceful transition can take place in jordan. >> that's remarkable. what are you hearing out of damascus and syria? we hear the facebook attempt to organize a demonstration fizzled. perhaps not surprising in damascus and syria. >> there was a call on the facebook page called revolution in syria. there were 13,000 people in facebook terms that liked it. the demonstration is actually for tomorrow, saturday in damascus. we'll see what happens.
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certainly the feared demonstration spreading across the region didn't take place today. partly because everyone's looking at cairo taking their cue from cairo. as the violence petered out in cairo the army got in between the protesters, the leadership in cairo said they were going to make compromises which would appeal to the protesters. so i think that is being heard across the middle east and hopefully if things work out peacefully in cairo they will work out peacefully elsewhere, too. of course if it becomes more violent in cairo that will raise the temperature across the middle east again. >> martin fletcher, author of "walking israel," thank you very much. president mubarak is resisting pressure to resign despite growing pressure from the united states, from the u.n. secretary general today. mass tif protests in the streets. dade gregory is moderator of nbc's "meet the press." david, that is huge challenge.
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you moderated a panel at brookings with a lot of scholars and experts from across the region. what is your take as day aon what happened happen if mubarak were to finally agree to step down? who would fill the vacuum? >> that's a huge question. what the administration seems to be work toward and what experts think is possible is some kind of transition period, a coalition government. you talked about a muslim brotherhood. it was pointed out by one of the experts on the panel that they will be aware of their position internationally. so they don't want to overstep it. they have matured in that sense. the question of mohammed al baird, whether he's a legitimate force e re mains to be seen. what role will the government play in the government or transition, that's important. >> i think the point martin made in terms of shock waves from
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cairo. remember one reason egypt got so big is because of the outcome in tunisia. the leader of the country left and all of the sudden protesters think, wow, maybe we can pull that off here. >> you spoke of the role of the military. it is widely believed if he has to be pushed rather than nudged, it will be the military that goes to him. this is the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff mike mu will, will -- mullen last night. >> we have trained their officers here? >> they have, by the hundred ifs not thousands over the course of 30 years. we have an awful lot of contacts, relationships. they have lived with us. certainty with outcomes and certainty with what's going to happen tomorrow, it's just not there. in that uncertainty certainly i have an expectation and a relationship with the egyptian
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military. >> so mike mullen is making the point that that's the line of communication. the most fruitful line of communication. vice president joe biden talked to suleiman, the president. but they are framing not only the american response but what happens there. >> it's been everything, in terms of their position to not fire on protesters is a way to put pressure on mubarak to go. they will have some role in the future. they are unlikely to allow egypt to become a theocracy. this is not iran. and $1.3 billion from the u.s. in military aid, that's important. but some point out that the military is heavily dependent on the patronage of the regime. that has to be worked out. >> and israel, the shock waves there, in watching this. we saw over the course of the week benjamin netanyahu at first siding with mubarak, his ally in
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the cold peace that's existed between israel and egypt for 30 years, and gradually, reluctantly moving to the more pro democracy position under pressure at home as well. >> right. israel worries about what democracy means. >> they want security. >> they want security. they have a peace agreement with egypt and they are in a situation where they've got iran as a neighbor trying to develop a nuclear weapon. that instability makes officials in israel incredibly nervous and worried. they would like frankly for there to be a conversation about the disarray that could accompany a democratic shift. they are worried like a lot of people are about what comes next. mubarak was oppressive but you knew what you were getting. fareed zakaria had an interesting point that it was regime to regime, not people to people. >> and your panel yesterday said
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there were sign that is the egyptian army moved beyond what was happening in cairo to protect the borders and gaza. i know you will have on "meet the press" john kerry, another big pressure point is what we are hearing from the foreign relations committee. >> i thinkerry is in synch with the military's position and what they are saying and trying to maneuver. i should say we are trying to maneuver ourselves in terms of getting the latest from the ground and egypt. that's fluid. we'll see how it plays out. we'll have the latest on that and you will be with us in california. we'll be at the reagan library for reagan at 100. >> great fun. you will have jim baker and his expertise on foreign policy and the stellar reporting between richard engel and lester holt and martin fletcher and the whole team, ron allen. the extraordinary resources of nbc. >> they're keeping us informed and doing a great job.
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>> thank you very much, david. up next, former white house correspondent my friend and former colleague at nbc, judy woodruff on her interview with former first lady nancy reagan. can getting enough vegetables make you feel good? oh, yeah. v8 juice gives you 3 of your 5 daily servings of vegetables. v8. what's your number? host: could switching to geico really save you 15% or more on car insurance? host: does it take two to tango? ♪ ♪
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this sunday marks what the president ronald reagan would have called the 61st anniversary of his 39th birthday. if you missed the math he would have been 100 years old this weekend. and now his wife nancy reagan is the subject of a documentary reported by judy woodruff and airing for the first time sunday on many pbs stations around the country includes unprecedented
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access to the former first lady including how they first learned of his victory. >> the reports come in so quickly the reagans are caught off guard. >> it is a landslide. >> i had the television turned up and i heard, it looks like ronald reagan has won. well, i jumped out of the tub, grabbed a towel, knocked on the shower door, told ron to get out. he grabbed a towel and there we are, dripping wet, listening to somebody say, ronald reagan is the next president of the united states. >> pbs news hour's judy woodruff spent four days with nancy reagan for the documentary. welcome home. >> thank you. >> this was your first home in washington. >> my first home. it's great to be back. >> this is an extraordinary insight into nancy reagan. first of all, she looks wonderful. >> she does.
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we talked to her in 2009. it was the kind of access that any journalist would love to have. in particular with mrs. reagan who was then 87 when we talked to her and she had brought all the energy, an tree i canthat y to the project. she wanted to tell the story of her husband and her role in his life, in his presidency. >> one of the things that was so remarkable about the two of them, we knew at the time that she had an important role. what you were reporting and what our friend lou cannon and other biographers have learned is how profound the role was, but the reagan love affair. the letters in the book published a few years ago, he was not only a brilliant writer, but that relationship. i want to play a little bit of your interview with stu spencer about the reagan relationship. >> they're hugging and they're kissing and, you know, it's
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going on and on and on. i'm saying to myself, holy toledo, what is this? you know. it looked like somebody saying good-bye in "gone with the wind." >> and that's the way they were all the time. >> it was. she grew up at a time when women played a traditional role. she saw what her mother's relationship with her step-father in particular. she carried that right through. she was very close to president reagan. they had a remarkable romance and marriage. but she also, as you have been saying, what we have discovered is she was very active behind the scenes. she was every day, she took the role of supportive spouse and carried it to new heights because she was involved in personnel decisions, in making sure that her husband was surrounded with people who would carry out what he wanted and who would make him successful. through that she was able to influence personnel and policy
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ultimately. >> in fact, the detante with gorbachev and the summitry. one of the reasons their good-byes were so emotional and romantic is she was changed profoundly by the assassination attempt which was far more serious than any of us knew at the time. i want to play a clip of you talking to nancy reagan about what happened in march 30 years ago. >> i'm starting for the elevator. and they said, but he's all right. he hasn't been hit. i'm still starting for the elevator. i say to them, you either find me a car -- or i'll walk. i have never seen anybody so white. really white. that was when he said, honey, i forgot to duck. i almost lost it. >> you know, judy, this is hard
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for both of us in a way, but you were there at the hilton. you were the nbc correspondent when he was shot. >> i was part of the press pool that day. >> initially -- >> no one knew the president was hit. we knew his motorcade pulled away fast. we saw jim brady on the ground. we saw the secret service agent but nobody understood the magnitude of it. i will say what happened that day changed nancy reagan's complete attention to detail about her husband's schedule. she hated to see him leave and when she did she said, i hardly took a breath until he paid back. she paid acute attention to where he was, how long he was there and who he was with. that obtained through the rest of their time together until he died six years ago. >> she overcame all of the criticism or a lot of the criticism about queen nancy and all the rest. there was the china and the clothes and all of that.
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she managed to dissipate that through a very smart self-deprecating appearance at the gridiron club performing singing a song to the tune of "secondhand rose". >> dressed up in a dress that looked like rags and making fun of herself. from then on she was able to lift her appearance inhe eyes of americans, but it was still a long road. i think it really wasn't until people saw the care she took of her husband through that, as she puts it, the long good-bye, the years he had alzheimer's when people saw a different side of nancy reagan. then onto her fight for stem cell research. >> independent of the president, the incumbent president. >> she lobbied hd for stem cell research with george w. bush who was opposed. for federal funding. so what we hope the documentary does is really bring a new dimension to what we understand was the role that mrs. reagan played. >> judy woodruff, i don't
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pretend to be anything but your biggest admirer and friend. so this is a great privilege. >> it's mutual. >> thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> the fact is the end of the cold war and reviving the president politically after iran contra, two things that would not have happened -- >> neither one would have happened without mrs. reagan. she had a very close hand in both of those things. and we're really only now fully understanding that. >> well, we understand it a lot better after i screened the documentary and thanks to you. the documentary begins airing sunday at 10:00 on pbs. check your local listings. it will air in washington a week from today on friday night. thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. what political story will be making headlines in the next 24 hours? that's next right here. and be sure to follow the story online and on twitter. aren't absorbed properly unless taken with food.
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the countdown is on in dallas for the packers versus steelers set to face off in super bowl xlv. despite snow and ice, more than 120 now, fans expected to convention on the cowboys stadium for the big game. for those of us left behind the first lady's office released the guest office for the president's super bowl bash. with the bears it's of contention they're not going but the party will include jennifer lopez and marc anthony, attorney general eric holder, secretary janet napolitano, senator pat tomb were and bob casey, reid ribble. which political story will be making headlines in the next 24 hours? managing editor of, chris cillizza joining me now. steelers or packers? >> i'm a packers adopted fan.
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i'm rooting for the packs are in the game. i like politics more than the average person, let's be honest, jennifer lopez is the person you want to meet in the crowd. i love pat toomey. >> not reid ribble. >> jennifer lopez, you know, that's something different. >> i was thinking of marc anthony. >> this weekend, even talking about it, reagan's 100th birthday, a huge moment for conservatives and republicans more broadly. reagan sort of cited as the iconic hero in the party. i feel like every election when people ask, we go through debates, who is your political hero? reagan is the default answer. it was in 2008, my guess 2012, too. >> some potential contenders,
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sarah palin going to santa barbara, newt gingrich releasing a documentary, all trying to sort of climb on the bandwagon, i should say. >> yeah, absolutely right. look, it's a very powerful man tell. any candidate running is going try to say their the heir part to the party. reagan did successfully that people struggle with, unite the social and fiscal conservative parts of the party, get them together, get them behind a sij candidate and talk about hope and optimism. reagan in some ways, comparison, fascinating "time" magazine, the comparisons between reagan and barack obama in terms of the struggles they went through in the first two years, the economy, how first elected, a lot of fascinating subplot there's. i don't think anybody will mistake barack obama's politicses for reagan's politics but i guarantee you everyone in the 2012 field will want to be seen as the heir to what reagan
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ushered in when elected in 1980. >> i can tell you, from a personal conversation on her last visit to washington, nancy reagan was touched by her resen resenception by barack obama ate white house and did like him. he was extraordinary in the way he reached out to her. everyone is going to claim some part of that. the president teamed to be channeling reagan at the state of the union. that does it for us this week. thank you, chris sill liillizza. that does it for "andrea mitchell reports." tamron hall a look at what's next on "news nation." hi, tamron, lady in red. >> yes, both of us, for a great cause. have a great weekend. our next hour, another day of protests in cairo's main square. president mubarak refusing to leave office until his term is over, claiming there will be chaos if he does leave. this was supposed to be, as protesters called it a day of departure. waiting to hear from astronaut mark kelly who is married to congresswoman gabrielle giffords, about his
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plans for shuttle "endeavour's" final flight. will he lead the flight as mission commander. a 7-year-old student facing criminal charges after bringing a toy gun to school. yes, he's 7, and now he's facing criminal charges. it is today's "news nation" gut check. all that and more. if you've just signed up for medicare or will soon,
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